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Post by jules on Mar 10, 2008 15:24:12 GMT -5
It would sort of be nice to be respected by the rest of the world again. That's all I'm saying.
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Post by lumpy on Mar 10, 2008 15:24:14 GMT -5
He doesn't even have a definitive nod from his incumbent. Not sure that would even help given Dubya's approval rating. Lumpy, I think you need to prepare yourself for the fact that the majority of Americans see right through Obama's rhetoric and slogans as well as see Hillary Clinton for the crazy socialist she is. I think you'd better prepare yourself for a shared Dem ticket. I don't see Hillary beating McCain head to head. I think Obama could go toe to toe with him. If Hillary would accept a VP nod I think the two of them would probably steamroll any sacrificial lamb the Pubs decide to put up.
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Post by blazinheart on Mar 10, 2008 15:27:38 GMT -5
Lumpy, I think you need to prepare yourself for the fact that the majority of Americans see right through Obama's rhetoric and slogans as well as see Hillary Clinton for the crazy socialist she is. I think you'd better prepare yourself for a shared Dem ticket. I don't see Hillary beating McCain head to head. I think Obama could go toe to toe with him. If Hillary would accept a VP nod I think the two of them would probably steamroll any sacrificial lamb the Pubs decide to put up. Sorry man, I just dont' think that our nation is ready for the kind of socialistic policies that those two are bringing to the table. Maybe in another 4-8 years.
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Post by fluffypants on Mar 10, 2008 16:34:27 GMT -5
Lumpy, I think you need to prepare yourself for the fact that the majority of Americans see right through Obama's rhetoric and slogans as well as see Hillary Clinton for the crazy socialist she is. I think you'd better prepare yourself for a shared Dem ticket. I don't see Hillary beating McCain head to head. I think Obama could go toe to toe with him. If Hillary would accept a VP nod I think the two of them would probably steamroll any sacrificial lamb the Pubs decide to put up. Hillary would rather destroy the party, cut deals with the supers and cause another DNC riot ala 1968 than end up second on the ticket behind Obama. I sure don't see that happening. If anything, Hillary is going to have more going for her against McCain than Obama is. After all, she is the one capable of winning all the major cities and major states. It is taking a while, but Americans are starting to get smart and are starting to realize that Obama is nothing but fluff and rhetoric. He is getting a giant humongous free pass by the media and the Dems in these primaries.That might not be so once the general election comes around.
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Post by blazinheart on Mar 10, 2008 16:58:27 GMT -5
I think you'd better prepare yourself for a shared Dem ticket. I don't see Hillary beating McCain head to head. I think Obama could go toe to toe with him. If Hillary would accept a VP nod I think the two of them would probably steamroll any sacrificial lamb the Pubs decide to put up. Hillary would rather destroy the party, cut deals with the supers and cause another DNC riot ala 1968 than end up second on the ticket behind Obama. I sure don't see that happening. If anything, Hillary is going to have more going for her against McCain than Obama is. After all, she is the one capable of winning all the major cities and major states. It is taking a while, but Americans are starting to get smart and are starting to realize that Obama is nothing but fluff and rhetoric. He is getting a giant humongous free pass by the media and the Dems in these primaries.That might not be so once the general election comes around. The majority of Americans know that Hillary and the whole Clinton machine is pure terror. Even Obama's own guy called Hillary a monster. She is a monster. The majority of Americans would rather die than see her in the white house.
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Post by lumpy on Mar 10, 2008 17:13:44 GMT -5
Hillary would rather destroy the party, cut deals with the supers and cause another DNC riot ala 1968 than end up second on the ticket behind Obama. I sure don't see that happening. If anything, Hillary is going to have more going for her against McCain than Obama is. After all, she is the one capable of winning all the major cities and major states. It is taking a while, but Americans are starting to get smart and are starting to realize that Obama is nothing but fluff and rhetoric. He is getting a giant humongous free pass by the media and the Dems in these primaries.That might not be so once the general election comes around. I agree with (and am afraid of) your first statement. Hillary probably is too proud to take the VP nod. Not so sure about your second assertion. I see a lot more Hillary hate than Obama hate. I also get the impression that the Pubs want Hillary to get the nomination. I think they see her as the easier opponent. Right now, I'd tend to agree.
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Post by lumpy on Mar 10, 2008 18:25:20 GMT -5
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Post by wizer on Mar 10, 2008 18:29:30 GMT -5
I don't want a president named Obama. Too close to Osama. What if he is the guy's cousin, he gets into power and then turns into a terrorist or something.
Where will that leave us?
I don't trust Hilary even though Billy Boy was a good president despite his lack of tact in regard to his pursuit of interns.
I give the default vote to Johnny.
So what if he can only eat when blindfolded? That's good enough for me.
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Post by fluffypants on Mar 10, 2008 19:37:20 GMT -5
Hillary would rather destroy the party, cut deals with the supers and cause another DNC riot ala 1968 than end up second on the ticket behind Obama. I sure don't see that happening. If anything, Hillary is going to have more going for her against McCain than Obama is. After all, she is the one capable of winning all the major cities and major states. It is taking a while, but Americans are starting to get smart and are starting to realize that Obama is nothing but fluff and rhetoric. He is getting a giant humongous free pass by the media and the Dems in these primaries.That might not be so once the general election comes around. Not so sure about your second assertion. I see a lot more Hillary hate than Obama hate. I also get the impression that the Pubs want Hillary to get the nomination. I think they see her as the easier opponent. Right now, I'd tend to agree. I don't know, man. I could be wrong, but I honestly can't see the electorals voting in a clueless political rookie like Obama come the general election regardless of the popular vote. I mean, there is too much at stake in this country(and with world) these days for someone who doesn't know what he is doing. Clinton and her political experience seems a lot more difficult for the Electorals to shaft ala Al Gore, than Obama.
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Post by lumpy on Mar 10, 2008 19:59:26 GMT -5
Not so sure about your second assertion. I see a lot more Hillary hate than Obama hate. I also get the impression that the Pubs want Hillary to get the nomination. I think they see her as the easier opponent. Right now, I'd tend to agree. I don't know, man. I could be wrong, but I honestly can't see the electorals voting in a clueless political rookie like Obama come the general election regardless of the popular vote. I mean, there is too much at stake in this country(and with world) these days for someone who doesn't know what he is doing. Clinton and her political experience seems a lot more difficult for the Electorals to shaft ala Al Gore, than Obama. I don't know. Al had eight years of VP under his belt and look what that got him.
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Post by Dave on Mar 10, 2008 21:17:35 GMT -5
I don't want a president named Obama. Too close to Osama. What if he is the guy's cousin, he gets into power and then turns into a terrorist or something. Where will that leave us? I don't trust Hilary even though Billy Boy was a good president despite his lack of tact in regard to his pursuit of interns. I give the default vote to Johnny. So what if he can only eat when blindfolded? That's good enough for me. I ACCUSE Freckles of being Idocsteve.
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Post by Chaos40 on Mar 13, 2008 14:55:17 GMT -5
After briefly jumping on the Ron Paul bandwagon, I've realised that the guy doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell, regardless of his massive online support. I'm not going to throw my vote away by voting for him. So, i'm going to return to my previous choice of McCain. The guy is solid. He says what he means, he got more experience than any other candidate out there, he knows almost all foreign leaders personally, he actually knows what's going on in the world and he's not a wussy. What are your other choices? Obama = 20th hijacker Hillary = Communist
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Post by Dave on Mar 13, 2008 16:36:13 GMT -5
After briefly jumping on the Ron Paul bandwagon, I've realised that the guy doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell, regardless of his massive online support. I'm not going to throw my vote away by voting for him. So, i'm going to return to my previous choice of McCain. The guy is solid. He says what he means, he got more experience than any other candidate out there, he knows almost all foreign leaders personally, he actually knows what's going on in the world and he's not a wussy. What are your other choices? Obama = 20th hijacker Hillary = Communist McCain = Communist Super Agent
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Post by lumpy on Mar 13, 2008 16:47:38 GMT -5
What are your other choices? Obama = 20th hijacker Hillary = Communist McCain = Communist Super Agent Hanoi Candidate. 5 years of N.Vietnamese brainwashing is about to payoff!
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Post by blazinheart on Mar 13, 2008 17:36:26 GMT -5
Hitlery has been groomed for the presidency by the hidden forces behind our government. If Obama gets elected, he will be assassinated by these forces, nationwide rioting will ensue and then Hillary, as vp, will step in an enforce all of the fascist executive powers that have been put in place by the current administration.
May fascism live on!
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