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Post by blazinheart on Jan 21, 2008 19:46:12 GMT -5
So what age did they cut the umbilical cord from your momma blaze? Hey, make jokes all you want. I'm not the one who pawns my kid off on other people to take care of. Have a nice day.
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Post by Saucy on Jan 21, 2008 19:48:11 GMT -5
oooo go ahead and have the last word if it'll make you feel better. better than being bitter.
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Post by blazinheart on Jan 21, 2008 19:50:34 GMT -5
oooo go ahead and have the last word if it'll make you feel better. better than being bitter. I'm not bitter sista. I just believe that parents should make sacrifices in order to stay home with their little children. The fact that my opinion reflects negatively on me only speaks to the sad state of our society. Yeah, i'm the bad guy, the bitter one because I want mothers to stay home with their toddlers, bad blazinheart for suggesting that.
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Post by Saucy on Jan 21, 2008 19:50:48 GMT -5
you could assume all you want, but if you were living in my world blaze, you couldnt possibly handle responsibility and priorities. i remember the last thread you posted about wanting a woman to take care of you, yeah, maybe you should go and move back in with your mother because apparently, you never got detatached from her. and you expect that from every woman your with. for them to treat you like a farking baby and spoon feed you. waawaawaa maybe you should be the one to wear diapers you prick.
hahhahaaaa
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Post by finding on Jan 21, 2008 19:51:43 GMT -5
I was at home with my oldest two full time. I did take college classes while they were in preschool and the youngest at the time went to a morning program. (They had been home with me 24/7 for years and needed the social interaction before school started.) And don't get me started there Blazin. I saw first hand what can happen to a child when they don't interact with kids their own age.
And before I get lambasted, my middle boy wouldn't have gotten his autism diagnosis for another 2.5 years if he hadn't been in the morning program he was in.
State benefits don't cover sqat. My two oldest don't qualify for medical coverage in this state and there aren't housing benefits. I've looked into it.
My grandfather was in a nursing home before he died. My parents took care of him for many years at the cost of my brother and I. The focus was taken away from us (not monitary benefits) and the family life suffered. My grandmother is living with my aunt and uncle now. Frankly she would be better off in a nursing home. She is isolated and ignored and does not receive the medical care she should be, but because she isn't being physically abused the state won't step in.
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Post by blazinheart on Jan 21, 2008 19:54:02 GMT -5
you could assume all you want, but if you were living in my world blaze, you couldnt possibly handle responsibility and priorities. You mean responsiblities like being there for your little child when he needs his mommy instead of dropping him off at daycare? You can't even handle these responsiblities yourself, so I don't think you have any room to talk about me handling them.
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Post by Saucy on Jan 21, 2008 19:55:06 GMT -5
oooo go ahead and have the last word if it'll make you feel better. better than being bitter. I'm not bitter sista. I just believe that parents should make sacrifices in order to stay home with their little children. The fact that my opinion reflects negatively on me only speaks to the sad state of our society. Yeah, i'm the bad guy, the bitter one because I want mothers to stay home with their toddlers, bad blazinheart for suggesting that. If i had all the money in the world to support my baby without using my brain, by all means, absolutely. but for mothers in the same situation as I, there's no possible way we could chose to go and be in poverty just so that our children could be with us 24/7.
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Post by goods on Jan 21, 2008 19:57:02 GMT -5
blaze
OK I agree that in a perfect world, mom's would be home with their children. HOWEVER; that is not possible for everyone. Are you really saying that Saucy's child would be better off with her living off the government?!! If you knew anything about her, you would applaud her for being so strong. Do you really think she wouldn't rather be home everyday with her son?!!! Blaze I really respect your views on why there is so much divorce, so many problems with kids today. BUT going back to the 50's is not going to happen and trying to apply the 50's template you have in your head to single parents just doesn't fly. There is theory and reality.... some people have to live in reality.
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Post by blazinheart on Jan 21, 2008 19:58:21 GMT -5
I was at home with my oldest two full time. I did take college classes while they were in preschool and the youngest at the time went to a morning program. (They had been home with me 24/7 for years and needed the social interaction before school started.) And don't get me started there Blazin. I saw first hand what can happen to a child when they don't interact with kids their own age. And before I get lambasted, my middle boy wouldn't have gotten his autism diagnosis for another 2.5 years if he hadn't been in the morning program he was in. State benefits don't cover sqat. My two oldest don't qualify for medical coverage in this state and there aren't housing benefits. I've looked into it. My grandfather was in a nursing home before he died. My parents took care of him for many years at the cost of my brother and I. The focus was taken away from us (not monitary benefits) and the family life suffered. My grandmother is living with my aunt and uncle now. Frankly she would be better off in a nursing home. She is isolated and ignored and does not receive the medical care she should be, but because she isn't being physically abused the state won't step in. Finding, I appreciate you sharing your story. But daycares, preschools, and nursing homes are just facilities that shouldn't exist. They do, but that's just the nature of a society that no longer values family. People just have no time anymore for family.
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Post by Saucy on Jan 21, 2008 20:01:38 GMT -5
you could assume all you want, but if you were living in my world blaze, you couldnt possibly handle responsibility and priorities. You mean responsiblities like being there for your little child when he needs his mommy instead of dropping him off at daycare? You can't even handle these responsiblities yourself, so I don't think you have any room to talk about me handling them. gonna get my child from day care now. i'll hand your arse to you when i get home after i give him love, food, attention and more love. now YOU GO FIGURE OUT WHEN YOU NEED TO STOP SUCKING YOUR MOMMA'S TITTY AND BE A FARKIN MAN.
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Post by wizer on Jan 21, 2008 20:01:59 GMT -5
blazin', you make it sound like the kids are dropped off and completely forgotten about.
It's usually part time, at most maybe 35-40hours per week
There's still every night, weekends, holidays, vacations...it adds up you know.
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Post by lumpy on Jan 21, 2008 20:05:14 GMT -5
So what age did they cut the umbilical cord from your momma blaze? I'm not the one who pawns my kid off on other people to take care of. Cause you don't have kids.
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Post by blazinheart on Jan 21, 2008 20:10:37 GMT -5
blaze OK I agree that in a perfect world, mom's would be home with their children. HOWEVER; that is not possible for everyone. Are you really saying that Saucy's child would be better off with her living off the government?!! If you knew anything about her, you would applaud her for being so strong. Do you really think she wouldn't rather be home everyday with her son?!!! Blaze I really respect your views on why there is so much divorce, so many problems with kids today. BUT going back to the 50's is not going to happen and trying to apply the 50's template you have in your head to single parents just doesn't fly. There is theory and reality.... some people have to live in reality. Well goods, other than our country, most of the other 4 billion people in this world manage to stay with their children until school age. So don't tell me my ideals are out of date. They aren't out of date, they've just become very unpopular in a society full of selfish, self-serving, materialistic people. Our country is looked at disgracefully all over the world because of our shallow, materialistic mentality. We're viewed as pigs that put our material consumption above all else. How do I know this? Because I've travelled all over the world. And these people tell me what they think of our "rich" and morally bankrupt nation. And they're right. I've seen countrys full of healthy, happy children growing up in what we, in this country call poverty. Why are these children happy? Not because they live in nice houses, have nice cars, and lots of nice things but because they always have family around, family that loves them. All the money in the world can't give a child the sense of security that a loving family can. So all you folks can go right on insulting me. But I will never change my attitude as far as the well being of our children go. Just because you are unwilling to make the adequate sacrifrices for the children of this nation doesnt' mean I shouldn't or the rest of the world shouldn't.
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Post by wizer on Jan 21, 2008 20:11:48 GMT -5
Cause you don't have kids. Excellent point. He doesn't drop them off, he doesn't nurture them, and he probably doesn't understand them. There's only so much you can get from books and tv. I am NOT saying I know a heck of a lot more, but having kids does teach you a lot, and give you the "authority" to talk about them.
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Post by finding on Jan 21, 2008 20:12:40 GMT -5
In a perfect world maybe so Blaze, but there is no such thing.
I have already informed my parents that if something drastic should happen and they need care that they will have to go to a nursing or an assisted living home. I won't put my kids' needs on the back burner. My circumstances are different than most though, I have two kids with autism, and one if not both will be living with me forever.
I'm only one person and my kids come first.
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