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Ojar
Jul 28, 2008 13:46:15 GMT -5
Post by sheyd on Jul 28, 2008 13:46:15 GMT -5
And how often were they on? I rarely saw them, and they rarely dealt with any of the nasty stuff. Not sure what the training was, but he said the people he asked didn't have the time. Were those two who he was talking about (and who were they?) and why were they on so rarely? Give me something to go on and I will pester him about it!
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Ojar
Jul 28, 2008 13:48:04 GMT -5
Post by freckles on Jul 28, 2008 13:48:04 GMT -5
I think you could do it sheyd
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Ojar
Jul 28, 2008 15:39:49 GMT -5
Post by Mod (PQ-Kermie) on Jul 28, 2008 15:39:49 GMT -5
He never activated the accounts so there was nothing they could do.
Relax girl.... he's just done with it for now. No sense beating a dead horse.
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Ojar
Jul 28, 2008 18:30:34 GMT -5
Post by michael on Jul 28, 2008 18:30:34 GMT -5
Hi Everyone, I am a guest here so I don't intend to stir controversy, rather clarify a few things. 1. Refunds were given (even if you HEARD otherwise). 2. Everyone wanted "someone else" to moderate as they were too busy. 3. The site still helps by sharing information. After all it is an evergreen topic and "my story" is "your story" plus or minus some details. 4. I reply to PM's (although not always immediately). 5. Yes, I created a CD. LOL! I did it as a side project to help people that need it. 6. I ran OJar from Aug. 2001 to Dec. 2007. In my opinion I have little to add to that 'body' of work. What needed to be said, has been said. 7. PQ/Kerm. has done an excellent job of maintaining this site. Thank you PQ/Kerm. 8. I am getting married next year. Trivia: she helped me setup OJar back in 2001, helped moderate it at times and put up with the craziness of running OJar.com 9. My time these days is spent these days looking forward to the future and divorce is a distant memory these days. I don't let it define me. 10. I met amazing and special people running OJar (that includes the people on this site). I would rather focus now on new topics and if OJar were to restart again it would be on a different theme and with help. So far, all offers of help have been extremely limited and basically a shopping list of things for me to do. Doesn't sound fair, does it? (a rhetorical question) Take care, - Michael.
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Ojar
Jul 28, 2008 21:32:30 GMT -5
Post by Mod (PQ-Kermie) on Jul 28, 2008 21:32:30 GMT -5
ok yes,, he did ask me to help out and yes I didn't think I was capable at the time to fill the shoes of ojar. Its a pretty big thing and at the time I wasn't sure I could deal with it.. or at least live up to what everyone expected. Its a big shoe to fill. At the same time I was happy that it was ending.. not for me but for Michael. He had dealt with his past and he wanted to move on.. and he damn well deserved it. I wish I would have helped more.. but we all want to change things in the past that we can't go back and fix.
I like Michael have met some of the most amazing and life changing people thru his board.. and for that I can only be thankful.. I will not however hold him in charge of my life as it goes forward. He did his part well and beyond most of us to help others in our situation and it has been long past time we let him live his life.
It was a bad time for all of us.. and for those to come it will remain a bad time.. but let the man have his due.. say thank you.. and let him move on with his own life.
I will be here for as long as those need me and this board.. and the only person yo have to thank for that is Michael.
We all want ojar to live in someway.. for me this is my way of thanking him for what he has done over the past 7 years.. it might not be the same but at least the memory of what he has done for us will still carry on.
PQ
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Ojar
Jul 28, 2008 22:50:51 GMT -5
Post by freckles on Jul 28, 2008 22:50:51 GMT -5
Ojar helped me I went through my Divorce and there was not any other place to go I am Thankful for Ojar helping me I have Friends I have never met LadyJ and Hot Mess and Sully and Charmed and Smiley and Crushy and I could go on and on Like EQ Widow and Sass and many more I wish Ojar could start agan But, I know it is hard because it takes time to do that
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Ojar
Jul 28, 2008 23:07:11 GMT -5
Post by sheyd on Jul 28, 2008 23:07:11 GMT -5
Hey!!! Congrats on the marriage - I am so glad you two are finally taking the plunge! As for the rest, ojar has a life of its own - which is why you want to leave the evergreen info out there- you know it is still (sadly) extremely fresh and relevant for many newbies. That is the reason I would want it started up again - and NOT changed. It may have started as a "where I am and need support" kind of board, but it was never an "all about Michael" board. Even if you don't need it, find it interesting or relevant, it still holds a wonderful and oh-so-needed niche. I am so sorry others won't be able to have the support and create the "where I am and need support" friends, like I did. People who moved through the whole process together, friends who could reach out from "ahead" in the tunnel, and newer friends who need your guiding light to know there IS light ahead. The fact that that is no longer available for newbies makes me indescribably sad. I totally get that it is probably dead. I totally get that you have an outside life, and am SO glad to hear of the marriage (as you already knew I would be ). I just wish others could get there as "easily" as we did, because ojar was there for us. So sad.
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Ojar
Jul 28, 2008 23:31:43 GMT -5
Post by freckles on Jul 28, 2008 23:31:43 GMT -5
I have a Idea Make Ojar into a eBook that can be downloaded LuLu.com is a Place that you can do that
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Ojar
Jul 28, 2008 23:51:33 GMT -5
Post by michael on Jul 28, 2008 23:51:33 GMT -5
Make Ojar into a eBook that can be downloaded Instead of an eBook... what if it were a "book"? OJar.com contains is over 2 Gigabytes of information. So as a book that would be... let's do some math. A page is approx. 300 words of approx 5 letters each. So a page is 1500 letters (ignoring white spaces). 2,147,483,648 / 1500 = 1,431,655 sheets of paper. Or about 3 tons of paper ignoring the weight of ink! Delivery of OJar.com printed out = 1 tractor trailer of paper. ;D - Michael. p.s. I think the only way is to select some of the better threads.
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Ojar
Jul 29, 2008 0:21:00 GMT -5
Post by kittenhart on Jul 29, 2008 0:21:00 GMT -5
I think the only way is to select some of the better threads. I think the feeling of the community is probably best preserved by just leaving the old Ojar up....it is, as you say, "evergreen" info (sadly)...but I think it really helps people to see the process. I know it helped me just lurking, seeing that other people had the same experiences. Also, You put so much work into running it and maintaining it, I don't know how you'd ever decide what threads to keep....plus, sometimes the seemingly useless banter is very helpful and cathartic. It's all part of a pattern that you don't see if you remove parts of it and "clean it up". I know Jules and some others wish they could remove posts for privacy...which maybe is a bit of a concern, but honestly I don't care if my decimating grief is forever public- it may help someone someday just to read those posts- and I know that if I went back and started deleting, I would be tempted to remove posts I made at my worst points, where I felt I looked pathetic or needlessly vindictive....which are probably the ones from which I (and maybe others) could stand to learn the most from. Those were my feelings at the time. p.s. I can't think of a worse job than trying to edit Ojar in a meaningful way.......just go on from here, Michael. Good luck and thank you.
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Ojar
Jul 29, 2008 10:06:17 GMT -5
Post by jules on Jul 29, 2008 10:06:17 GMT -5
Congratulations, Michael. Wishing you the best as you look forward to the future.
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Ojar
Aug 2, 2008 8:47:46 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Aug 2, 2008 8:47:46 GMT -5
p.s. I think the only way is to select some of the better threads. "Hey Tarheel"
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Ojar
Aug 4, 2008 12:40:35 GMT -5
Post by freckles on Aug 4, 2008 12:40:35 GMT -5
I allways thought a few banner Ads here and there in the Catagories
Would have Paid for Moderators
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Ojar
Aug 7, 2008 8:24:47 GMT -5
Post by shattered on Aug 7, 2008 8:24:47 GMT -5
Ditto on everything Shey and Kittenhart said.
Michael -- congratulations on your upcoming marriage!
Two technical points:
-- I'm really confused about something -- seems to me that Hugthat is the same thing as Ojar, just under another name. Why is it that new people can't find it???
-- Why not combine Hugthat and Ojaroo into one site? I post over on Ojaroo as well, as does at least one other Hugthat member. Traffic on Ojaroo is *extremely* slow -- and I think both Hugthat people and Ojaroo people could benefit from a somewhat expanded pool. And new people who find the sites won't be wondering why the site they just found is nearly dead!
Comments?
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Ojar
Aug 7, 2008 10:20:25 GMT -5
Post by hoodieprincess on Aug 7, 2008 10:20:25 GMT -5
Have you guys noticed there's a new graphic on the opening page? It's a CD ad for divorce tips and such. I never noticed that before... I haven't read the rest of the thread after this post but I actually am still on a mailing list and got an e-mail about this the other day...
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