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Post by freckles on Jan 20, 2008 22:51:02 GMT -5
maybe they are Happier
And Maybe they are not
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Post by freckles on Jan 20, 2008 22:55:11 GMT -5
I Painted a House for this Old Man that Retired
he was going to sell His house
And go to that Beech that all the Collage Kids go to
And Chase Drunk Collage Girls and try to have sex with them
Instead of being around his peers
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Post by wizer on Jan 20, 2008 22:59:21 GMT -5
^ guys like that are self sufficient and do not go into nursing homes.
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Post by blazinheart on Jan 21, 2008 14:26:18 GMT -5
Most old folks are probably happier there among peers playing bingo than rotting in a bedroom of a family members house. And we're the ignorant ones? Playing bingo? You think that's what the elderly want to do with the rest of their lives? Play fucking bingo, have a group of orderlies order them around, walk up and down linoleum hallways all day long? And they'd rather do that than spend the remainder of their lives with their loved ones, watching their grandchildren grow up, eating dinner with their family, spending what's left of their lives with the ones they care about? That's the same justification I hear parents spew when they drop their little ones off at daycare. Oh, my 2 year old needs the socialization, he's better off with strangers all day than with his mommy. Daycare is actually advancing my child, it's good for him. Lies, lies and more lies. The fact that our society views the elderly as a bunch of children that need to be stuck in a home to play bingo for the rest of their lives is a tragedy, a sin. Yeah, we are a rich nation and those riches have become all that is important to us. When a society can discard an entire sector of the population as we've done, you know there's not a whole lot of redeeming qualities left in our country. We've become a bunch of selfish, money hungry greedheads.
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Post by freckles on Jan 21, 2008 14:33:06 GMT -5
A Lot of People Dump Old People at the Nursing Homes and then they Move
And the Drs/Nursing homes have no idea what that family wants about anything
My Sister is a Nurse over 9 nusing homes
She saw this Woman bring her Husband to the Nursing Home.
She said that man loved his wife
His wife Dumped him there
And never ever came to see him
In 3 months he was dead.
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Post by wizer on Jan 21, 2008 14:37:09 GMT -5
And we're the ignorant ones? Playing bingo? You think that's what the elderly want to do with the rest of their lives? blazin, you have obviously never experienced the thrill that goes along with realizing they just called B12 and that's the one you need, and you yell out BINGO! at the top of your lungs. It's true that some people dump the older relatives off at nursing homes because they don't want to be bothered. It's also true that in some cases these old folks need the specialized care and medical treatment provided at these places, and its probably true that many of these old folks have no idea what's going on around them. The ones that are able bodied and of sound mind are not in the homes, they are either living on their own or they are with relatives. Sure there are probably some that are middle of the road, and it's a shame. But it does not mean that nursing homes are death traps filled with neglect and abuse, which is what this thread is all about.
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Post by freckles on Jan 21, 2008 14:50:11 GMT -5
This thread is not about Nursing Homes being Bad or Good
It's about they have a money $$$$$ desire that even if you get better
That you dont walk out
And there are People that Dump Relatives there.
My Dad knew of this Rich Man. His Kids Dumped Him there and took all His money.
He was sane and could walk and do things.
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Post by jules on Jan 21, 2008 15:01:01 GMT -5
The ignorant stereotypes throughout this thread absolutely astound me. It just shows that people who buy into it have very little life experience about these matters and are very close-minded to reason from those who may have personal experience.
Oh, and for those who say that even if you get better you don't come out: my dad is scheduled to go home in 3 weeks, providing that his next doctor's appointment goes as well as anticipated.
Once again, it is a health care facility -- not a prison.
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Post by blazinheart on Jan 21, 2008 15:09:03 GMT -5
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Post by blazinheart on Jan 21, 2008 15:10:26 GMT -5
The ignorant stereotypes throughout this thread absolutely astound me. Yeah, the ignorance is astounding, just as the denial is.
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Post by lumpy on Jan 21, 2008 15:20:21 GMT -5
Most old folks are probably happier there among peers playing bingo than rotting in a bedroom of a family members house. And we're the ignorant ones? Playing bingo? You think that's what the elderly want to do with the rest of their lives? Play fucking bingo, have a group of orderlies order them around, walk up and down linoleum hallways all day long? And they'd rather do that than spend the remainder of their lives with their loved ones, watching their grandchildren grow up, eating dinner with their family, spending what's left of their lives with the ones they care about? Nursing Home Orderly: Good news, everybody, we're extending arts and crafts time by four hours today. Elderly Woman: My fingers hurt. Nursing Home Orderly: What's that? Elderly Woman: My fingers hurt. Nursing Home Orderly: Oh, well, now your back's gonna hurt, 'cause you just pulled landscaping duty. Anybody else's fingers hurt?... I didn't think so.
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Post by wizer on Jan 21, 2008 15:21:21 GMT -5
Ok, I don't profess to be an expert on nursing homes, nor have I had to deal with a choice of taking in an elderly relative versus placing them in a home, but after reading the comments on this thread as well as blazin's links, it is reasonably safe to say the following:
1/3 of nursing homes have been cited for at least one case of abuse or neglect, therefore 2/3, or the majority of nursing homes are safe and well maintained, and take proper care of their patients. So, before placing a loved one in a nursing home, do your homework and find one that has a good history, and keep close tabs on how your relative is being treated.
In the United States there are larger numbers of patients placed in other nursing homes than in other countries, and it is probable that "some" of those patients would be happier staying with family but they are not given that choice because the family members would prefer not to be inconvenienced. Hopefully this is the exception not the rule.
Elderly patients that are self sufficient and of reasonably sound mental capacities who can make decisions regarding their own care do not go into nursing homes, they live on their own, or with relatives, and do quite well for the most part.
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Post by blazinheart on Jan 21, 2008 15:30:07 GMT -5
The bottomline is, we shouldn't stick our parents in a home. We should take care of them. If they need meds, we should learn how to administer them, if they need special care and attention, we should learn how to give it to them ourselves. If they need help bathing, dressing, going for walks, we need to be there to help them. Pawning these duties off on strangers just so that we won't be incovienced is pathetic and shows no character.
These are our parents.
Now, granted, in the case of alzheimers sufferers that become physically violent, I may make an exception.
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Post by wizer on Jan 21, 2008 15:42:16 GMT -5
Now, granted, in the case of alzheimers sufferers that become physically violent, I may make an exception. That's very nice of you.
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Post by Saucy on Jan 21, 2008 15:54:20 GMT -5
i friggen hate the smell of nursing homes. they wreak of death. i personally wouldnt put my elderly parents in one of those, i would probably hire a nurse or caretake while i'm working to support their special needs.
I don't think most parents drop their children to daycare for them to socialize; like me, i need to work to put food in his tummy, to clothe him, to shelter him. I really do hate the thought of someone else raising my child, but what else options do i have if i need money. but socialization is one great advantage to being at daycare...
Blaze, can you give me some money so i don't have to drop my child off at daycare everyday so that he could socialize??
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