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Post by Saucy on Jan 21, 2008 18:39:48 GMT -5
it truly makes me sad that there are people like Blazin who doesnt appreciate working mothers out there who day to day struggle to support their family. Instead, Blazin wants to turn it around to make it to be a negative thing and basically say that single mothers are selfish because they have to put their children in daycare so that they could work for a living.
But Blazin, if you're willing to give me about $6,000 a month, i'd be more than happy to stay at home with my son and not "Ditch" him at daycare.
P.S. If you chose not to give me $6,000/month, i suggest that you put a sock in it.
P.S.S. oh snap!
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Post by blazinheart on Jan 21, 2008 18:43:33 GMT -5
And if everyone could qualify to live off gov't assistance so that we could stay at home and be with our children every waking day, where would our society be then? Well, we'd have a society with better adjusted, less fucked up children, that's for sure. And you know, I don't expect people to agree with me. I know how most of our society thinks because it's apparent in their actions. But I will still represent what I believe. And, as far as i'm concerned, it's unacceptable for a parent to drop a child under the age of 5 off at daycare for other people to care for. You think your 1-4 year old child cares if his food or housing comes as a result of food stamps or federal assistance? No. What your 2 year old child cares about is having his mommy, that's what your child deserves. And for a parent to think it's ok to drop him off with strangers is inconceivable to me. If you just have to get out there and work, at least wait til the kid is ready for kindergarten, at least 5 years old, preferably 6. That's the very least a parent can do.
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Post by blazinheart on Jan 21, 2008 18:47:57 GMT -5
But Blazin, if you're willing to give me about $6,000 a month, i'd be more than happy to stay at home with my son and not "Ditch" him at daycare. You dont' need 6K a month, you just think you do. Nobody needs 6k a month. What people need to do is learn to live simply, not spend beyond their means. Our society has lost sight of what is necessity. I guarantee you, most of the people in this world don't have a fraction of the crap we fill our lives with, yet they manage to put family first, and we manage to dump our young ones off at daycare.
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Post by rocko on Jan 21, 2008 18:48:18 GMT -5
Iworked in daycare BEFORE I had children. I saw things happen (and reported those things) that I would NOT want my children exposed to. I left a few daycares because theyhad a few quality workers and thenthey had the one's that would say, "did you shit your pants?" to a two year old. I stayed home with my kids and struggled to keep them from experiencing the things I saw. I absolutely did my homework before actually chosing the right caretake for my son. I am out of my element out here in California, no friends, no family, no-one. So i really had to chose carefully. So far, i've had no problems with my childcare provider. she completly adores my son like her own and fully attentive to his needs. And because i'm a single parent, her price is reasonable. and in all greatness, i'm like a 10 block radius of her, and my apartment. Rocko, you completely contradict your self when you say you wouldnt want your children raised in a day care because you've worked at daycares and you know the way you raise children.
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Post by Saucy on Jan 21, 2008 19:02:25 GMT -5
But Blazin, if you're willing to give me about $6,000 a month, i'd be more than happy to stay at home with my son and not "Ditch" him at daycare. You dont' need 6K a month, you just think you do. Nobody needs 6k a month. What people need to do is learn to live simply, not spend beyond their means. Our society has lost sight of what is necessity. I guarantee you, most of the people in this world don't have a fraction of the crap we fill our lives with, yet they manage to put family first, and we manage to dump our young ones off at daycare. okay maybe i don't meed 6k a month, with school loans, bills, diapers, food, rent, clothing, medical insurance, car insurance, dental insurance, life insurance, hmmm..just to name a few. i guess you have your views and i have mine. why dont you have kids first and let me know how it works out for you to be living on welfare, explaining to your children that because daddy chooses not to work, you can't take family vacations, and enjoy the 'simple' pleasures of life. living in poverty is not the way i want to raise my child. sorry.
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Post by Saucy on Jan 21, 2008 19:07:10 GMT -5
Good for you Rocko to report those things happening, because GOD forbid my kid ever comes home and tells me that happened at daycare. honestly, people like you've worked with obviously didnt like their job. So they find it amusing to talk bad to children, abuse, neglect and whatever. So just because you had a bad experience with a couple day care providers, you shouldnt generalize all daycare providers to be just as the same. its sad that there are HORRIBLE caretakers out there. I work for a personal injury firm, and we have taken a few Elderly abuse cases, and its just sad. so sad that there are heartless people out there who are barbaric to treat another human that way.
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Post by blazinheart on Jan 21, 2008 19:10:32 GMT -5
okay maybe i don't meed 6k a month, with school loans, bills, diapers, food, rent, clothing, medical insurance, car insurance, dental insurance, life insurance, hmmm..just to name a few. Like I said, there is federal and state support for mothers who choose to stay home with their child. But I guess that's beneath you. See, it's a matter of pride, not what's in your child's best interest. Not to mention most single mothers could move in with a family member while they stay home and raise their child, at least until the child is old enough to go to school. So Saucy, you are neither willing to accept federal help or move in with a family member in order to stay home with your child. That's the bottomline. You've got your priorities, just like our society. And making sacrifices to stay home with your child isn't at the top of your priority list.
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Post by wizer on Jan 21, 2008 19:15:17 GMT -5
You've got your priorities, just like our society. And making sacrifices to stay home with your child isn't at the top of your priority list. She has pride. She doesn't leech off of taxpayer dollars while other ablebodied Americans suck the system dry. She wants to live independently and not parasitize family members. She wants herself and her children to have a nice house, nice things, not live at the poverty level, even if that means placing her child in daycare for several hours a day. I think she is being quite reasonable, and you blazin, who is not a parent nor trained in the psychological aspects of raising a family, are talking a bunch of BS that you are not even authorized to spew in the first place.
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Post by Saucy on Jan 21, 2008 19:17:40 GMT -5
I see where you are coming from Blazin. But what part of ZERO family members ZERO people out here to live off of. I DO NOT QUALIFY FOR ENOUGH ASSISTANCE and honestly, i CHOOSE NOT TO LIVE IN POVERTY. My child will be fuckd up living in that kind of environment.
In all honesty, I would love to stay at home with my child EVERY day. He's my partner. My only reason why I want to strive for more to make sure he is covered in every aspect of life.
You failed to answer my question Blaze, how many children do YOU have?
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Post by lumpy on Jan 21, 2008 19:22:17 GMT -5
I'm with idoc. Self-sufficiency is a more important example to provide your children with. Your position is dated and obsolete, Blaze. I agree that it would be ideal but it simply isn't practical for most folks in this day and age.
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Post by blazinheart on Jan 21, 2008 19:23:07 GMT -5
She has pride. She doesn't leech off of taxpayer dollars while other ablebodied Americans suck the system dry. Pride, independence, nice house, nice car, nice things....all at the child's expense. The little child doesn't care about his mom's pride, independence, a nice house, car. These are all superficial, material things, not love. The child needs love, he needs his mother. So, because the parents of our society are so wrapped up in materialism, the kids suffer from neglect. I pay my taxes so that perhaps I can contribute to the well being of little children. If my tax dollars can go to a single mother to pay for housing and food, then that's is money well spent. That's what those tax dollars are for, so use them.
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Post by blazinheart on Jan 21, 2008 19:27:04 GMT -5
I'm with idoc. Self-sufficiency is a more important example to provide your children with. Your position is dated and obsolete, Blaze. I agree that it would be ideal but it simply isn't practical for most folks in this day and age. Like I said lump, that little 2 year old doesn't care about his mother's self sufficiency, he just needs his mommy around. And to rob this child of what he needs most at that age simply because of the mother's pride is wrong. This is a mother putting herself before the well being of the child. Is it too much to ask that mothers wait until their children are 5 or 6 before they go get their independence and self sufficiency? I guess so.
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Post by Saucy on Jan 21, 2008 19:38:36 GMT -5
So what age did they cut the umbilical cord from your momma blaze?
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Post by wizer on Jan 21, 2008 19:44:04 GMT -5
So what age did they cut the umbilical cord from your momma blaze? LMAO.
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Post by Saucy on Jan 21, 2008 19:44:54 GMT -5
Dont farkin guilt trip me just because i chose to work for a living. Don't tell me that i "ditch" my child at daycare, to work for his needs, don't tell me that just because you are a tax paying assh*le that i could chose to live in a ghetto ass neighborhood where theres gangs and killings almost everynight, so i'm spending your tax dollars wisely. Don't tell me to go and live with a family member for 5 years, so that i can show my son love every second of the day.
hahahaaha
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