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Post by freckles on Sept 4, 2008 13:03:09 GMT -5
CBS = Liberal Communist Democrats Leftest News Media that HATE the USA
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Post by lqdKaos on Sept 4, 2008 15:08:05 GMT -5
CBS = Liberal Communist Democrats Leftest News Media that HATE the USA Why is it that when anyone questions a republican and presents some evidence, they are dismissed as liberal communists? What Kind of Vision ? Obama wants Zero Energy Production He has a Vision of everybody * Back on thier feet - Walking And Frezzing to death in Winter and Dieing of Heat Stroke in Summer He likes that Vision Evidence Please...Cite articles and present links that lead to actual voting history or actual quotes from Obama. My mind is not made up yet, but statements like these seem to be based on myths that you heard on tv or want to believe. I think in the past I provided links and articles to disprove your statements about Obama's energy and military vote history.
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Post by lqdKaos on Sept 4, 2008 15:30:50 GMT -5
What Kind of Vision ? Obama wants Zero Energy Production He has a Vision of everybody * Back on thier feet - Walking And Frezzing to death in Winter and Dieing of Heat Stroke in Summer He likes that Vision I would like to point out that McCain has actually likely done more to hurt energy production than Obama. "A McCain White House would favor free-market economics and rein in the role of federal government policy on energy. Obama, meanwhile, would seek a more active role for government in promoting the clean energy industry."What does that mean? Nothing really if taken out of context. It just points out a difference between Obama and McCain. "McCain is opposed to existing federal government ethanol production targets and has said that he would eliminate a tariff on Brazilian ethanol, a move which would expose U.S. producers to more competition."What does this mean? Well we start importing ethanol from Brazil instead of producing it here in the US. Thus, sending just a few more jobs to a foreign country. Woohoo, more foreign dependence on yet another resource. "He also advocates expanded domestic oil drilling and a massive increase in nuclear power plant construction, with the goal of building 45 new reactors by 2030."
OK, I kind of agree with the increase in use of nuclear power. But would like to see MUCH more research and development into the storage of the waste products. I dont believe its enough to just bury in the ground. In sharp contrast to McCain, Obama's voting record has been solidly behind the renewable energy industry. A Senate effort last year to extend an investment tax credit around solar and wind energy projects failed to pass by one vote; McCain did not voteSee this is where your statements about Obama hating energy production fall short. McCain failed to vote on a tax credit to help solar and wind projects....But how did Obama vote? "Obama has voted for the investment tax credit, set to lapse at the end of this year, and favors a renewable portfolio standard (RPS), which would mandate that utilities generate 25 percent clean energy by 2025.""Obama supports the continued ethanol mandate and has called for more aggressive fuel-efficiency standards. Obama has not ruled out further expansion of nuclear power but his support is pending new technology development for storage of nuclear wastes, according to New Energy Finance."So, he has not ruled out nuclear, just feels more research into storage is needed. Hmmm. Both have proposed expanded research into so-called clean coal technology for storing carbon dioxide emissions from coal plants underground. And both favor tax breaks for fuel-efficient cars.So both Obama and McCain are supporting the same energy ideas here? How does any of this translate to "Obama hates energy and wants people to freeze" again? I dont get it? Here's a link to the original article. news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10031450-54.htmlperhaps you should read it, or read other articles that might give you more than the toilet paper you are currently getting your information from.
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Post by freckles on Sept 4, 2008 17:08:26 GMT -5
P.S.
Obama also Hates People who Cling to Religion
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Post by freckles on Sept 4, 2008 18:35:35 GMT -5
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Post by gdgross on Sept 4, 2008 18:50:34 GMT -5
Oh, lqdKaos, you have so much to learn...
;D
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Post by freckles on Sept 4, 2008 19:15:44 GMT -5
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Post by Mel (cherry) on Sept 4, 2008 19:46:13 GMT -5
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Post by lqdKaos on Sept 5, 2008 12:05:20 GMT -5
Oh, lqdKaos, you have so much to learn... ;D Like what? That actual evidence and research beyond listening to the 2-faced bullshitters on fox news is lost on arguments with people like Freckles?
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Post by Phyxius on Sept 5, 2008 12:48:25 GMT -5
Oh, lqdKaos, you have so much to learn... ;D Like what? That actual evidence and research beyond listening to the 2-faced bullshitters on fox news is lost on arguments with people like Freckles? Well, no - that part is obvious enough...
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Post by gdgross on Sept 5, 2008 13:14:15 GMT -5
Oh, lqdKaos, you have so much to learn... ;D Like what? That actual evidence and research beyond listening to the 2-faced bullshitters on fox news is lost on arguments with people like Freckles? Well, maybe you've got that one down, then...
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