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Post by freckles on Mar 4, 2008 11:33:07 GMT -5
Thats why having them home is better because you dont know whats going on at any day care
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Post by hoodieprincess on Mar 4, 2008 11:40:26 GMT -5
I would turn her in...State-to-state, the laws vary about what temp a kid must have reached before they aren't allowed to be there but here, it's anything over 100.7. Also, if they have been vomiting, they must stay home for 24 hours from the last time they were sick. There are tons of others but I would call and turn her in if I were you. At least, they start an investigation, it makes her life hell at the moment, and they don't find any wrong-doing. At best, they do an investigation and find that she's doing all kinds of things wrong and no children or parents have to deal with poor quality of care because she can't get her act together.
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Post by freckles on Mar 4, 2008 11:42:13 GMT -5
I would turn her in...State-to-state, the laws vary about what temp a kid must have reached before they aren't allowed to be there but here, it's anything over 100.7. Also, if they have been vomiting, they must stay home for 24 hours from the last time they were sick. There are tons of others but I would call and turn her in if I were you. At least, they start an investigation, it makes her life hell at the moment, and they don't find any wrong-doing. At best, they do an investigation and find that she's doing all kinds of things wrong and no children or parents have to deal with poor quality of care because she can't get her act together. If she is that bad, why do you take your kids there ?
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Post by jules on Mar 4, 2008 11:44:38 GMT -5
You can easily report her to the state who may show up for a surprise inspection. If she is breaking any regulations she will be cited. She will not know that you reported her. For the sake of other children in her care and her parents, I hope that you make that phone call. I find it so sad that requirements to run a daycare out of one's home are so minimal. Centers generally have more stringent requirements regarding the staff that they hire, and their education and training (at least in my state.) If you are looking into daycare providers it's always good to check out if they are NAEYC accredited. www.naeyc.org/I hope you have better luck with your new care provider. jules, i wouldnt know where to report her, and i am more concerned about the other parents and their children too. i mean, she talks so much shit about other parents to me, i'm like, i wonder what you tell them about me. she complains its the parents, and not her, which almost always is the case, but not in this one. she's definitely breaking some rules. okay, i pay her to watch my child. one day, she told me she left my child and 2 other kids with her sister, who's also licensed (as she says), without any of our permissions. she told me after the fact. its unethical, but i don't know if its illegal. Saucy, forgive me for not knowing for sure, but am I correct in thinking that are in California? If so, this webpage will give you the info you need on how to file a complaint, and how it will be handled: www.ccld.ca.gov/PG408.htm There is also info on the same website re: laws and such. But my feeling is that if you have a gut instinct that something isn't right, it's worth being reported.
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Post by jules on Mar 4, 2008 11:47:56 GMT -5
And, freckles, I don't mean to be rude, but it's obvious that you have no knowledge of quality child care vs. inferior quality, and the benefits of a quality child care environment, in which an atmosphere of cooperation between parents and providers is encouraged for the benefit of the child, so I suggest you stop with the blanket statements which can not only be ignorant but hurtful.
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Post by hoodieprincess on Mar 4, 2008 11:47:59 GMT -5
Also, in any state, you should be able to contact your county social services department. Their number would be listed under government pages in a phone book and they would make sure you were in touch with the right persron.
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Post by freckles on Mar 4, 2008 11:56:19 GMT -5
Everyone is Mad and saying *Turn Her In*
I keep saying * If is is that bad* why is everybody Mad when she does not want sick kids ?
And they keep bringing thier sick kids to her
Then they are mad because she gives in and takes a sick kid
She cant win for losing
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Post by jules on Mar 4, 2008 12:11:23 GMT -5
No one is mad that she will not take sick children into her care. Fact is, it's not the provider's call to make. There are laws and regulations which make that call.
Personally I get angry when I hear of providers not following regulations and/or providing less than an ideal quality of care precisely because it does help fuel the stereotype that child care is automatically a negative thing, when in fact good care can only add to a child's experience and upbringing.
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Post by hoodieprincess on Mar 4, 2008 12:24:59 GMT -5
Right.
And it's not that she takes a sick kid but she is making judgements on taking sick kids based on parental needs an ignoring whatever laws/regulations are in place and providing a double standard for who she is willing to take. Plus, by taking kids she isn't supposed to, she is then not providing a safe enviroment for the other children in her care. It sounds like Saucy is doing the right thing and taking her child out of that enviroment. Yet, by wanting propper care for her child, she is catching flack from this provider. That is not okay.
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Post by Saucy on Mar 4, 2008 12:35:25 GMT -5
yeah, my son will be going to a preschool type daycare, i'm soooo excited, i can't wait for him to start. i was talking to other parents at the new daycare, and they tell me wonderful things about the provider. its still a "home" daycare, but the environment is "preschool" type.
Although she costs more, but i can at least rest assure that i'm getting my money's worth.
Freckles,
I didnt want to take him there anymore. however, since i'm in a binding contract i'm obligated to give her 2 weeks notice (which in this case i only gave her 1, cause she's screwing me), and just to avoid any drama.
She is still a good person, however, she is making huge mistakes that SOMEONE needs to make her see her own flaws.
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Post by gdgross on Mar 4, 2008 12:57:07 GMT -5
Perhaps you could talk to her candidly and she might change her ways?
You do have some power. You know she broke laws and you could talk to other parents or the appropriate authorities.
Personally, I hate turning someone in if I can avoid it. Maybe she would see the light if confronted? Although now that you're moving cash, maybe it's just easier to let it go.
What the hell do I know anyway, I don't even have kids...
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Post by hoodieprincess on Mar 4, 2008 13:05:54 GMT -5
I hate turning people in too but this is for the well-being of children other than just Cash. I have the mentallity that if I know there is something like that going on, I would rather turn them in and know it will be followed up on. It isn't about her being a nice person or not. There may be other parents in the same position as Saucy who arne't strong enough to stand up for themselves the way she has. I would personally be thinking of all of those other families as well. And, if she's doing things by the book, what does she have to worry about than a little bit of inconvenience?
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Post by freckles on Mar 4, 2008 13:13:00 GMT -5
I think they should shut down all Day Cares everywhere
Kids should be with thier Family
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Post by jules on Mar 4, 2008 13:16:04 GMT -5
In this case, she's not so much "turning her in" as reporting a suspicion of not following regulations. She'll get a surprise inspection, and if she is cited for not following regulations she'll have a period of time to correct the infractions. It's not like they'll shut her down immediately. I look at it as sort of a refresher that these are the rules and you must follow them. (If she doesn't comply within the specified time she could be shut down... IF they follow up.)
I don't have kids either, but my ex worked in child care (a crummy center at first, and then a really good one for 8 years), so it made me pretty aware of issues in regards to child care, as well as develop some strong feelings about the issue of child care in this country. Whether or not one personally has kids, it affects us as a society as much as any aspect of education does.
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Post by freckles on Mar 4, 2008 13:25:39 GMT -5
A Stranger/s are watching your Kids
that is bad
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