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Post by murdock on Mar 5, 2008 16:57:16 GMT -5
Poligamy.... what are your thoughts?
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Post by murdock on Mar 5, 2008 17:00:32 GMT -5
(I copied this from a Mormon website)
Mormon Poligamy
The Mormon Church practiced polygamy in its early years. It suffered great persecution for this practice and Mormons continue to be associated with polygamy to this day despite ending its practice more than one hundred years ago. The issue of polygamy has always been a sensitive one. Anti-Mormons exploit it to attack the Church, some Mormons defend it, and others are embarrassed or angered by it. Joseph Smith said it would be this doctrine which would try the faith of the Mormons above all else.
The Revelation
The Doctrine and Covenants contains revelations received by Joseph Smith concerning the establishment of the Mormon Church. The 132nd section is a revelation on eternal marriage and polygamy. The typical phrasing of a marriage ceremony states "until death do you part." A marriage in a Mormon temple, called a sealing because it is performed with the sealing power that binds in heaven what is bound on earth, remains valid for all eternity. The romantic notion of eternal marriage is a very attractive doctrine of the Mormon Church, but when the revelation was recorded in 1843 it also included the doctrine of polygamy, which was disturbing to Mormons both then and now.
It is thought that Joseph Smith knew about the Lord's intention to reinstitute polygamy as early as 1831 when he was performing a translation of the Bible and inquired about the ancient patriarchs having multiple wives, but he resisted starting the practice as long as he could. Many Mormon leaders of the time made statements about their aversion to polygamy but remained faithful to the commandments of God.
Joseph's Wives
One aspect of Mormon polygamy that makes it difficult to understand is the fact that it was initially practiced in secret. Joseph Smith's first polygamous marriage is thought to have taken place in Kirtland, Ohio in 1836. It is unknown how many wives Joseph had during his life, the estimates range from thirty-three to forty-eight, with some people maintaining that he never practiced polygamy. In keeping with the secrecy of polygamy, Joseph Smith publicly stated on several occasions that he did not practice it. To further complicate the matter, a few of the polygamous wives of Joseph Smith were already married. Polyandry is out of line with the Mormon doctrine of polygamy and most likely these wives were sealed to Joseph but civilly married to their husbands. There are also attempts to defend Joseph Smith from ever having had a sexual relationship with anyone but his first wife, Emma. It is, of course, the sexual aspect that impassions the controversy over polygamy and the secrecy and denials make it impossible to confirm this aspect of any of Joseph's polygamous marriages. However, it would have been perfectly within the bounds of chastity for this to occur according the doctrine of polygamy.
Utah Polygamy
After the Mormons settled in Utah, Brigham Young officially announced the practice of polygamy in 1852. Mormon leaders often had many wives but it was not common to do so. Brigham Young is thought to have been married to approximately fifty women; Heber C. Kimball to forty-three; but the majority of Mormon polygamists, 66 percent, only had two wives, and 21 percent had three. The difficulties of polygamous marriages were not far different from monogamous ones. Jealously and competition among wives existed and some women could not tolerate the arrangement and were granted a divorce. But just as many marriages succeeded, and sharing the burden of household chores actually allowed wives more freedom to pursue others interests, such as education.
After the Civil War and the emancipation of slaves, the Republican Party went after the other 'relic of barbarism' and began a crackdown on polygamy. Laws were passed outlawing it and then criminalizing cohabitation to prevent it from being practiced unofficially as well. Utah statehood was blocked while the Mormons resisted and the government began performing raids and arrests. Polygamists were prevented from voting and holding office. Many Mormon Church leaders went into hiding to escape imprisonment.
End of Polygamy
Facing greater and greater pressure from the government, Mormon Church president Wilford Woodruff announced the end of the practice of polygamy in 1890 to prevent the collapse of the Mormon Church at the hand of the U.S. government. Current wives were not abandoned, but no more polygamous marriages were allowed to be performed. President Grover Cleveland pardoned all who had polygamous wives before 1890.
Polygamy Today
After the Mormon Church ended polygamy many splinter groups formed that continued the practice. There are many groups in and around Utah today claiming Mormon beliefs that practice polygamy. The Mormon Church distances itself from these groups and excommunicates any one of its members found to be practicing polygamy. Although it currently forbids it in practice, the Mormon Church has never renounced polygamy as a doctrine and it is believed that those marriages will be valid in the next life. Because of current social taboos it is a topic that makes many believers uneasy, and becomes a target for Mormon critics. Polygamy is practiced in many areas of the world but is not shown the same tolerance that is requested of other alternative lifestyles that are growing in acceptance. Just as it was when first introduced by Joseph Smith, polygamy continues to be a trial of faith.
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Post by Saucy on Mar 5, 2008 17:20:00 GMT -5
i don't think theres enough cock to go around if its 10-1.
i wonder how he deals with 10 (or more) wives on thier menstral period.
oh yea i forgot that he just slaps them around. and then they obey.
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Post by goods on Mar 5, 2008 17:21:26 GMT -5
i don't think theres enough cock to go around if its 10-1. i wonder how he deals with 10 (or more) wives on thier menstral period. oh yea i forgot that he just slaps them around. and then they obey. Now you are making it sound appealing....
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Post by murdock on Mar 5, 2008 17:21:54 GMT -5
i don't think theres enough cock to go around if its 10-1. i wonder how he deals with 10 (or more) wives on thier menstral period. oh yea i forgot that he just slaps them around. and then they obey. and this is why you are one of my favorite friends. LOL!!!
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Post by murdock on Mar 5, 2008 17:26:22 GMT -5
I think that having a couple extra hands around the house would be helpful... I mean I am the first wife, and if my husband married another person wouldn't I get to boss her around and make her do all the laundry? That sounds wonderful. When it comes to "her night with my husband"... well I'll just make sure that she is extremely tired from all her Cinderella duties that day.
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Post by Saucy on Mar 5, 2008 17:51:34 GMT -5
i bet you wouldn't mind HAHAHA
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Post by murdock on Mar 5, 2008 17:58:51 GMT -5
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Post by murdock on Mar 5, 2008 18:03:34 GMT -5
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Post by goods on Mar 5, 2008 18:47:49 GMT -5
I think I should be the judge of this.... OK this weekend at the LAX Holiday Inn it is a straight/bi/lesbo off between Murdock and Saucy and I will be officiating, between Murdock and Saucy.
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Post by jules on Mar 5, 2008 19:40:22 GMT -5
In theory it sounds pretty good... 1 husband who is mechanically inclined, 1 who is domestic, 1 who is great in the sack, 1 who is affectionate, 1 who is a financial wizard, 1 who is a soulful artist... I'm liking it.
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Post by lumpy on Mar 5, 2008 19:47:02 GMT -5
In theory it sounds pretty good... 1 husband who is mechanically inclined, 1 who is domestic, 1 who is great in the sack, 1 who is affectionate, 1 who is a financial wizard, 1 who is a soulful artist... I'm liking it. That's funny. But think of all the farking laundry. I challenge you to find a straight man who doesn't fark up the laundry.
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Post by jules on Mar 5, 2008 19:57:35 GMT -5
The domestic one would do all of the laundry. Happily. ;D
And challenge accepted. My ex actually did a fine job with the laundry.
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Post by lumpy on Mar 5, 2008 20:24:09 GMT -5
The domestic one would do all of the laundry. Happily. ;D And challenge accepted. My ex actually did a fine job with the laundry. But was he really straight? I don't trust a staight man who can and willingly does laundry unless he absolutly has to. It ain't natural.
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Post by freckles on Mar 5, 2008 20:39:07 GMT -5
I dont know:
When I was a Kid I could beat up any 1 of my 3 sisters
2 of them I could hold my own
All 3 of them could beat me up easy
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