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Post by newts on Mar 15, 2008 9:28:00 GMT -5
Lol... Thanks big guy. If I ever see him again, I'll fly you down under to do your stuff! Ok..cool. And while I am there maybe you can give me a tour of the Outback and maybe we can scuba dive the Great Barrier Reef and go Alligator Hunting and maybe do other stuff...? Lol... As I have spoken to9 you before "everybody" must go to the barrier reef! One of the most beautiful bodies of water in the world! |
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Post by wizer on Mar 15, 2008 9:40:09 GMT -5
Ok..cool. And while I am there maybe you can give me a tour of the Outback and maybe we can scuba dive the Great Barrier Reef and go Alligator Hunting and maybe do other stuff...? Lol... As I have spoken to9 you before "everybody" must go to the barrier reef! One of the most beautiful bodies of water in the world! Well if you and I go, then one of the most beautiful bodies in the world will be swimming with me in one of the most beautiful bodies of water in the world. |
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Post by ionysis on Mar 15, 2008 17:18:07 GMT -5
Go Shey!
And Newts - clearly your experience and knowledge of the aboriginal issues must be extensive if that was the first time you'd even been near to one. And that ONE encounter must therefore be entirely representative... And totally inexplicable. Yeah, in fact all abos are just rude filthy bastards and their social issues are their own fault and no one elses...
Some of the opinions here truly make me sick. I'm not reading anymore of this drivel.
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Post by Phoenixx on Mar 15, 2008 18:37:43 GMT -5
Booooring.
For a supposedly intelligent forum there are some serious stereotypes floating around. Not surprised really...
Shey, thank you for a wonderful post. Only bit worth reading actually.
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Post by lumpy on Mar 15, 2008 19:29:14 GMT -5
My friends are from Melbourne, and described to me exactly what Australia did to the aboriginals - how many tribes were eradicated, how few remain, how the only way the wholesale slaughter stopped was to use "cruelty to animals" laws - since they weren't considered "human" (even we in the way-backwards US did better than that!). Shey Not to rain on your parade, but no, we didn't do better than that. Our government is guilty of atrocities against the Indians that rival or even surpass what the Australians did. Outright slaughter of women and children by the U.S. military, handing out smallpox infected blankets, making hard liquor readily available to Indians, the list goes on and on. You can't discount genocide. |
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Post by sheyd on Mar 16, 2008 0:17:42 GMT -5
Trust me, Lumpy - I know we didn't do great - I wasn't saying that! I could share lots of stuff too...
And Newts and I have been chatting behind the scenes, too - she has been EXTREMELY respectful and nice, even though I feel I was too attacking in my post. I think people are often tainted by their experiences - and she recently had a bad one. I apologize for my attack, it isn't the way to go beyond things like that.
Thank you for the compliments, but I apologize for the harshness of the tone.
Shey
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Post by wizer on Mar 16, 2008 0:19:43 GMT -5
And Newts and I have been chatting behind the scenes, too Newts told me that you thought she and I were the same person. I guess she finally convinced you were aren't? Now I just have to somehow convince everyone that I am not chaos40. |
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Post by sheyd on Mar 16, 2008 9:51:15 GMT -5
I realize now I didn't explain well - what I meant by "we did better than that" was that we didn't, in our laws at least, have to claim our Natives were animals to get protection. They were treated horribly, killed off in the millions, (estimates were there were something like 80 million people on this continent when "we" got here), and treaties were broken right and left. In our LAWS at least they were called human. Lesser humans, by treatment, but at least human.
Shey
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