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Post by murdock on Jan 26, 2008 0:58:30 GMT -5
sharia is the body of islamic religious law... Muslim's literal meaning is "one who submits to god" So my answer is no, there is no difference between any of the religions that kill in the name of god.
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Post by freckles on Jan 26, 2008 6:45:12 GMT -5
So my Question is:
When Evil Muslims do Bad - Killing/Whipping etc for minor infractions
Why do the Good Muslims
Remain Silent ?
Christians are very Quick to Speak Out about Bad acts by *So Called Christians
Why do Muslims Remain Silent ? (Or it seems so)
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Post by Phyxius on Jan 26, 2008 17:08:19 GMT -5
So my Question is: When Evil Muslims do Bad - Killing/Whipping etc for minor infractions Why do the Good Muslims Remain Silent ? Christians are very Quick to Speak Out about Bad acts by *So Called Christians Why do Muslims Remain Silent ? (Or it seems so) Two words -- Spanish Inquisition When the religious nuts (no matter what variety) have the power, it's safer just to keep your head down. Muslims don't have the market cornered on trampling basic rights in the name of religion. Read your history. Or better yet, look around. There are plenty of "Christians" here that would do the same if it furthered their cause...
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Post by finding on Jan 26, 2008 18:02:55 GMT -5
So my Question is: When Evil Muslims do Bad - Killing/Whipping etc for minor infractions Why do the Good Muslims Remain Silent ? Christians are very Quick to Speak Out about Bad acts by *So Called Christians Why do Muslims Remain Silent ? (Or it seems so) Two words -- Spanish Inquisition When the religious nuts (no matter what variety) have the power, it's safer just to keep your head down. Muslims don't have the market cornered on trampling basic rights in the name of religion. Read your history. Or better yet, look around. There are plenty of "Christians" here that would do the same if it furthered their cause... I have family members who fit this category. No, they haven't gone out and bombed abortion clinics, but they agree with it completely. With some of the things I have seen and heard, the right wing conservatives can be just as fanatical as any other religious zealots. It is not about certain religions, but certain people involved within these religions that harm their name.
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Post by freckles on Jan 26, 2008 20:12:42 GMT -5
Right Wing Conservatives don't Shoot Women in the Head for wearing Lipstick
Yall keep trying to give excuses for them doing those awful things
The Evil of Using a Whip on a Woman a thousand times
Or Cutting Her and Her Husbands Head off
They are doing those things *Right this Minute*
Comparing them to things People did hundreds of years ago
is not whats happening today.
What I think is weird. When People Point that out.
They are accused of being mean.
And nothing is said about the * Supposed Follers of Islam* that are doing those Bad things.
Is it the attitude of * Boys will be Boys ?
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Post by blazinheart on Jan 26, 2008 20:25:43 GMT -5
Phyxius and finding. You both continue to rehash a point that's already been conceded. Freckles and I don't disagree that there are extremists in every religion. So why do keep bringing up? We agree, move on.
Nobody's saying that Islam has the corner on market when it comes to extremism. All we're saying is, while christianity may share the corner, Islam takes up the whole block. Sure, you had a couple of abortion clinic bombing a few years ago, you had the inquisition and the crusades 500 and 1000 years ago respectively. But we're talking about the here and now, not ancient history. And the simply fact is, Islam has a far more active and populated sector of extremists than any other religion.
And if you two would've actually read through the thread and read the links, you would see that extreme Islam under the Sharia law is growing rapidly throughout several countries and tens of millions of followers. To me, that's cause for concern. Considering that Hitler, with control over a few million people, held Europe in his clutches while killing millions of Jews as well as Gentiles.
It's always a recipe for disaster when a government or religion gains ultimate control over it's people.
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Post by finding on Jan 26, 2008 20:31:27 GMT -5
It happens in Christian homes as well Blazin in this day and age, it is just hidden better. It is the elephant in the room no one talks about.
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Post by Phoenixx on Jan 26, 2008 20:33:41 GMT -5
Freckles - I have no answers on what they should do. Personally, I'd probably be shot in those countries because I'd scream loud and clear that what they are following is NOT Islam (just like I have been here). Those people are cowed and until they have the power to stand up, things wont change. But how, when they will be killed? Damned if you do and damned if you dont.
There needs to be a reform of leaders, but just as with countries such as Zimbabwe - and America - bad leaders wont always be got rid of. Unfortunately.
And (i just cant resist can I?) Blazing, its not "extreme Islam". it's not Islam at all. That's kinda what I have been trying to point out all along.
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Post by blazinheart on Jan 26, 2008 21:30:11 GMT -5
It happens in Christian homes as well Blazin in this day and age, it is just hidden better. It is the elephant in the room no one talks about. I'm not talking about what a small percentage of people do in their own homes. I'm talking about a government telling people what to do in their own homes and outside of their homes. Muslim countries are not democracies. There is no separation between church and state. the religion makes the rules, the religion tells people how to live. How do you think muslim communities or governments deal with homosexuality? How do you think Islam, in general, deals with fornication or adultery? How do you think a governent like the one in Saudi Arabia deals with these issues? Finding, you're sounding more like a person who talks about something they know little to nothing about. Phoenixx, please don't compare what goes on in Zimbabwe with what goes on in America. Zimbabweans are starving to death because of their dictator. It makes you look ignorant when you compare Robert Mugabe to George Bush.
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Post by freckles on Jan 26, 2008 21:33:33 GMT -5
George Bush is giving all Taxpayers in America $300.00 to $600.00 each on Average (Families with Kids will prob get more) They will send the checks out about May or June. God Bless America
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Post by finding on Jan 26, 2008 21:35:31 GMT -5
George Bush is giving all Taxpayers in America $300.00 to $600.00 each on Average They will send the checks out about May or June. God Bless America And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
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Post by freckles on Jan 26, 2008 21:36:51 GMT -5
George Bush is giving all Taxpayers in America $300.00 to $600.00 each on Average They will send the checks out about May or June. God Bless America And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Everything Freedom is Wonderful
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Post by finding on Jan 26, 2008 21:41:49 GMT -5
You missed my point Blazin. The same type of atrocities are happening on our own soil. Why not work on fixing things on the homefront a little more instead of pointing fingers at the flaws of other countries/religions, etc?
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Post by blazinheart on Jan 26, 2008 21:50:01 GMT -5
The same type of atrocities are happening on our own soil. Really. So in this country we stone people for being gay, adulterous or shaming muhammed? I wasnt' aware of that. We jail women because they are wearing unthorized clothing or cosmetics? Wow, that's news to me. And I also wasn't aware that in this country you can be imprisoned for practicing a religion that is unaccepted by our governent. I'm learning so much today. Thank you for being such an expert on the matter finding.
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Post by finding on Jan 26, 2008 21:56:25 GMT -5
Oh get off your high horse there Mr.
Do you know what happened to young girls in Colorado City, AZ? Do you have any idea what goes on behind closed doors in this country? Do you know how many kids on this soil go hungry and are abused every day? Do you know how many women are beaten or killed by a so called loved one in the US every year for similar offences?
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